Would you Trust NUST?

Words by Kevin Doocey on .

You have to credit them really for pursuing their ambitions in owning their local football club Newcastle United. However, it’s still questionable whether NUST or Newcastle United Supporters Trust have what it takes to run a football club which is mainly, money. The ‘Yes We Can’ campaign has been launched and their members are really serious about taking the club off Mike Ashley’s hands and allowing the fans to have a real say in affairs at Newcastle United. Communism keeps springing to mind when I hear it, sounds good in theory but whether this will please all sides or indeed work at all, is a big big question.

Saying that, I think it’s a great idea and if they managed to get some serious financial backing behind them either from abroad or at home then we could make a right go at managing a football club from the roots to the tips.

Speaking today the statement read :

‘There are a range of ways to invest but fans can be sure that it will be on a ‘one investor, one vote’ basis with fans electing six fans representatives through the trust and a president who will bring in a professional team accountable to the fans ultimately.’

The fact that’s it back by mainly Geordies is a good thing but you can’t help but question if it will ever happen, or if it will work out. As well as this, I can’t see Mike Ashley changing his mind after taking the club off the market and ‘laying down’ new plans for the club.

It’s pretty obvious that Mike Ashley is a man we all want gone from the club but do you think Newcastle United Supporter’s Trust are ready for a mammoth task of running a football club?

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steve: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Couldnt be any worse could it?

steve: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Couldnt be any worse could it?

david veitch: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Why do you think they aren't ready to control the club? Appoint a great President like Dean who masterminded Arsenal's development and let the professionals at last get to work with the clubs/supporters backing.

david veitch: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Why do you think they aren't ready to control the club? Appoint a great President like Dean who masterminded Arsenal's development and let the professionals at last get to work with the clubs/supporters backing.

fat gaz: ⏱ 11/11/2009

'They' or 'We' - make your mind up where you stand.

fat gaz: ⏱ 11/11/2009

'They' or 'We' - make your mind up where you stand.

Jack: ⏱ 11/11/2009

I wouldn't trust them, really. A person can be intelligent but a lot of people are stupid. You can argue that it would be no worse than Ashley's leadership, but Ashley has money at least. IF the NUST raises enough to buy the club, they'll never be able to afford to run the club at a loss. As well as paying off all of our debts. And as for running the club like a Galactico style thing, I would not want that. Electing a president based on false promises of transfer expenditure? No thank you. Not only is it unrealistic but it's not ideal. I never want to be a fan of a club that pays £80m a player.

Jack: ⏱ 11/11/2009

I wouldn't trust them, really. A person can be intelligent but a lot of people are stupid. You can argue that it would be no worse than Ashley's leadership, but Ashley has money at least. IF the NUST raises enough to buy the club, they'll never be able to afford to run the club at a loss. As well as paying off all of our debts. And as for running the club like a Galactico style thing, I would not want that. Electing a president based on false promises of transfer expenditure? No thank you. Not only is it unrealistic but it's not ideal. I never want to be a fan of a club that pays £80m a player.

Newckie: ⏱ 11/11/2009

"Communism keeps springing to mind when I hear it" FFS get a grip! (oh, maybe you already have )

Newckie: ⏱ 11/11/2009

"Communism keeps springing to mind when I hear it" FFS get a grip! (oh, maybe you already have )

chuck: ⏱ 11/11/2009

It`s a romantic ideal and is operated successfully by clubs in various countries. However we have neither the catchment area or the economy to support ownership of a competitive upper level team. And to have the white sheet brigade running things, is a recipe for disaster.

chuck: ⏱ 11/11/2009

It`s a romantic ideal and is operated successfully by clubs in various countries. However we have neither the catchment area or the economy to support ownership of a competitive upper level team. And to have the white sheet brigade running things, is a recipe for disaster.

Coxy: ⏱ 11/11/2009

The idea is of a Barca style ownership scheme but what gets forgotten about Barca and Real Madrid is both are regularly bailed out of there enormous debts by local business and Governments because it suits Catalonia to have Barca at the top table.Madrid were bailed out of a debt to the tune of £150 million 10 years ago when Banco Madrid board member Florentino Perez wrote it off.Barca are also funded by Catalonian Government to help sustain the success of their 'National Team'.Newcastle City Council can barely afford to prune park bushes never mind write off a clubs debts.Dreamers.Thats what I think NUSC is full of and I am a member.Look at how much money the Arabs have spent at MAN CITY to make them slightly above average.With all the best will in the world we could'nt even do that never mind break into tyhe top four of the premier league.Wake up girls and boys and smell the coffee.

Coxy: ⏱ 11/11/2009

The idea is of a Barca style ownership scheme but what gets forgotten about Barca and Real Madrid is both are regularly bailed out of there enormous debts by local business and Governments because it suits Catalonia to have Barca at the top table.Madrid were bailed out of a debt to the tune of £150 million 10 years ago when Banco Madrid board member Florentino Perez wrote it off.Barca are also funded by Catalonian Government to help sustain the success of their 'National Team'.Newcastle City Council can barely afford to prune park bushes never mind write off a clubs debts.Dreamers.Thats what I think NUSC is full of and I am a member.Look at how much money the Arabs have spent at MAN CITY to make them slightly above average.With all the best will in the world we could'nt even do that never mind break into tyhe top four of the premier league.Wake up girls and boys and smell the coffee.

billy treehead: ⏱ 11/11/2009

we will never know if it works or not unless we try. we have nothing to loose under the present circumstances , it could be the best thing that ever happened to the club.. or the worst!(if it can get any worse!) , i take my hat off to all those who have probably grafted their bollocks off to get this off the ground , i trust nust do care about the club whether or not i trust them to run the club remains to be seen.ive signed up anyway..just wish people would get behind them and show support instead of knocking them , give em a chance eh! THE FAT ONE MUST GO ASAP!!!!!!!

billy treehead: ⏱ 11/11/2009

we will never know if it works or not unless we try. we have nothing to loose under the present circumstances , it could be the best thing that ever happened to the club.. or the worst!(if it can get any worse!) , i take my hat off to all those who have probably grafted their bollocks off to get this off the ground , i trust nust do care about the club whether or not i trust them to run the club remains to be seen.ive signed up anyway..just wish people would get behind them and show support instead of knocking them , give em a chance eh! THE FAT ONE MUST GO ASAP!!!!!!!

MacToon: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Still undecided but I love the idea in theory, whether or not it'd work in practice and here at SJP I don't know. Who'd be president? Shearer? KK? FFS? lol , me or you? :) I agree the owner needs to go but if the local business peeps want the fans to back the idea first and the fans want some celebrity or business people to show their support we're then stuck in the classic catch 22.

MacToon: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Still undecided but I love the idea in theory, whether or not it'd work in practice and here at SJP I don't know. Who'd be president? Shearer? KK? FFS? lol , me or you? :) I agree the owner needs to go but if the local business peeps want the fans to back the idea first and the fans want some celebrity or business people to show their support we're then stuck in the classic catch 22.

Alexkid: ⏱ 11/11/2009

OK I'm a NUST member so you may play the bias card here. The only reason I can see the fan ownership model not working is the the fans don't want to play a part in/have an influence over the running of the club. As far as having the cash is concerned and potentially having to run the club at a loss. No one here actually know the true state of the clubs finances, with the exception of those that have done due diligence, I apologise but I refuse to believe another word that comes out of the Ashley camp, due to him having ripped any bond of trust between me as a supporter and himself in to tiny pieces over the course of the last few years. So what do we do about it. Way I see it we have three options. 1. Sit around hoping some foreign money man comes in, and risk that they might be just as inept as the current lot or as dishonest as the lot before. 2. Stick with Ashley's ridiculous, business ethos of 'stack em high and sell em cheap', and at potentially end up supporting a team renamed 'Fat Mike's All Stars' if he thinks it'll make him a couple of quid here and there. 3. Do something about.

Alexkid: ⏱ 11/11/2009

OK I'm a NUST member so you may play the bias card here. The only reason I can see the fan ownership model not working is the the fans don't want to play a part in/have an influence over the running of the club. As far as having the cash is concerned and potentially having to run the club at a loss. No one here actually know the true state of the clubs finances, with the exception of those that have done due diligence, I apologise but I refuse to believe another word that comes out of the Ashley camp, due to him having ripped any bond of trust between me as a supporter and himself in to tiny pieces over the course of the last few years. So what do we do about it. Way I see it we have three options. 1. Sit around hoping some foreign money man comes in, and risk that they might be just as inept as the current lot or as dishonest as the lot before. 2. Stick with Ashley's ridiculous, business ethos of 'stack em high and sell em cheap', and at potentially end up supporting a team renamed 'Fat Mike's All Stars' if he thinks it'll make him a couple of quid here and there. 3. Do something about.

ToonLoony: ⏱ 11/11/2009

What a load of cock!!! Ashley was worth billions when he took over the club and couldn't run it and make money, FFS and the halls couldn't run it and make money so what chance have a bunch of "likely lads" got of even getting a proper bid off the ground!!! BOBBINS!!!

ToonLoony: ⏱ 11/11/2009

What a load of cock!!! Ashley was worth billions when he took over the club and couldn't run it and make money, FFS and the halls couldn't run it and make money so what chance have a bunch of "likely lads" got of even getting a proper bid off the ground!!! BOBBINS!!!

Alexkid: ⏱ 11/11/2009

I think you'll find Shepherd and the Halls made plenty, and creamed most of it off for themselves.

Alexkid: ⏱ 11/11/2009

I think you'll find Shepherd and the Halls made plenty, and creamed most of it off for themselves.

Pure Genuis: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Why Nust is a must?.....if they can't raise enough money to buy the club then what money they do raise could be used to buy a seat on the Board!!, this will give the fans a direct voice where it matters most whilst the Ashley regime continues... and stop silly ideas like renaming the ground. ps if a Middle East consortium buys the club when back in the premiership all those that invested in Nust will double their money (...they wont be seen as gullible fools then Hah!!)

Pure Genuis: ⏱ 11/11/2009

Why Nust is a must?.....if they can't raise enough money to buy the club then what money they do raise could be used to buy a seat on the Board!!, this will give the fans a direct voice where it matters most whilst the Ashley regime continues... and stop silly ideas like renaming the ground. ps if a Middle East consortium buys the club when back in the premiership all those that invested in Nust will double their money (...they wont be seen as gullible fools then Hah!!)

nzedtoonman: ⏱ 12/11/2009

If NUST did buy the club at 2000 squiddlies a person , how do they then start paying the players wages ? The crowd returns once a fortnight , may not in themselves be sufficient , and financial backers such as adidas may have a touch of the seconds if they don't believe their sponsorship is financially secure ....

nzedtoonman: ⏱ 12/11/2009

If NUST did buy the club at 2000 squiddlies a person , how do they then start paying the players wages ? The crowd returns once a fortnight , may not in themselves be sufficient , and financial backers such as adidas may have a touch of the seconds if they don't believe their sponsorship is financially secure ....

Robby Bobson: ⏱ 12/11/2009

I would love it to work and would support it if i could, but seeing as im a studnet who lives off beans on toast 1500 is a step to far :P. I just cant see the finances to support the day to day running of the club coming in even if they do get 100 million (the price would go to 100million, not 80million as Ashley recently pumped 20million into the club) or the bank for example providing an overdraft or loan to the club. Large investment companies, Newcastles elite businessman and Fat Freddy couldnt afford the asking price after viewing the clubs books, i dont wont to be negative or anything but its a very long shot. Also who are the NUST? Who actually is in charge? Yes granted its a fan but i im sure Gordon Brown is a fan of Britain and he cocked that up. Last time i thought of the trust, they were protesting at the most inappropriate times (ie right before crucial relegation games), putting out statements, speaking on the radio and trying to arrnage meetings with the clubs owners like they are the representitives of all of the clubs supporters and that was not the case.

Robby Bobson: ⏱ 12/11/2009

I would love it to work and would support it if i could, but seeing as im a studnet who lives off beans on toast 1500 is a step to far :P. I just cant see the finances to support the day to day running of the club coming in even if they do get 100 million (the price would go to 100million, not 80million as Ashley recently pumped 20million into the club) or the bank for example providing an overdraft or loan to the club. Large investment companies, Newcastles elite businessman and Fat Freddy couldnt afford the asking price after viewing the clubs books, i dont wont to be negative or anything but its a very long shot. Also who are the NUST? Who actually is in charge? Yes granted its a fan but i im sure Gordon Brown is a fan of Britain and he cocked that up. Last time i thought of the trust, they were protesting at the most inappropriate times (ie right before crucial relegation games), putting out statements, speaking on the radio and trying to arrnage meetings with the clubs owners like they are the representitives of all of the clubs supporters and that was not the case.

ToonLoony: ⏱ 12/11/2009

Still think its cock, unless one of the NUST brigade is worth a few quid, the fac is it is all day dreaming. Whilst I would not say I am a fan of Fat Mike or the idiots before, but this is a non starter, at least Ashley will not let us go bust, he is only hanging on to get some cash back, when we get in the prem he will sell and we will have a new man in charge that we can all moan about!!!! I suppose that NUST want shearer in charge as well. Now he is worth a few bob, haven't seen him punting his cash into it!!!!

ToonLoony: ⏱ 12/11/2009

Still think its cock, unless one of the NUST brigade is worth a few quid, the fac is it is all day dreaming. Whilst I would not say I am a fan of Fat Mike or the idiots before, but this is a non starter, at least Ashley will not let us go bust, he is only hanging on to get some cash back, when we get in the prem he will sell and we will have a new man in charge that we can all moan about!!!! I suppose that NUST want shearer in charge as well. Now he is worth a few bob, haven't seen him punting his cash into it!!!!